Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life
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The inspirational sequel to 12 RULES FOR LIFE， which has sold over 5 million copies around the world - now in paperback
In 12 Rules for Life， acclaimed public thinker and clinical psychologist Jordan B。 Peterson offered an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to modern anxieties。 His insights have helped millions of readers and resonated powerfully around the world。
Now in this long-awaited sequel， Peterson goes further， showing that part of life's meaning comes from reaching out into the domain beyond what we know， and adapting to an ever-transforming world。 While an excess of chaos threatens us with uncertainty， an excess of order leads to a lack of curiosity and creative vitality。 Beyond Order therefore calls on us to balance the two fundamental principles of reality - order and chaos - and reveals the profound meaning that can be found on the path that divides them。
In times of instability and suffering， Peterson reminds us that there are sources of strength on which we can all draw: insights borrowed from psychology， philosophy， and humanity's greatest myths and stories。 Drawing on the hard-won truths of ancient wisdom， as well as deeply personal lessons from his own life and clinical practice， Peterson offers twelve new principles to guide readers towards a more courageous， truthful and meaningful life。
In 12 Rules for Life， acclaimed public thinker and clinical psychologist Jordan B。 Peterson offered an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to modern anxieties。 His insights have helped millions of readers and resonated powerfully around the world。
Now in this long-awaited sequel， Peterson goes further， showing that part of life's meaning comes from reaching out into the domain beyond what we know， and adapting to an ever-transforming world。 While an excess of chaos threatens us with uncertainty， an excess of order leads to a lack of curiosity and creative vitality。 Beyond Order therefore calls on us to balance the two fundamental principles of reality - order and chaos - and reveals the profound meaning that can be found on the path that divides them。
In times of instability and suffering， Peterson reminds us that there are sources of strength on which we can all draw: insights borrowed from psychology， philosophy， and humanity's greatest myths and stories。 Drawing on the hard-won truths of ancient wisdom， as well as deeply personal lessons from his own life and clinical practice， Peterson offers twelve new principles to guide readers towards a more courageous， truthful and meaningful life。
Reviews
Daniëlle Van den Brink
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"Things fall apart of their own accord， but the sins of men speed their deterioration: that is wisdom from the ages。"With 12 new rules， most of which read like re-worded versions of the first 12， Peterson is back with his life advice。 The overarching message is that you should work hard for things you want， the things （and people） you love but most of all， work hard on yourself。 To say I was underwhelmed by this sequel doesn't quite cut it。 The first part had a massive impact on me。 Perhaps it i "Things fall apart of their own accord， but the sins of men speed their deterioration: that is wisdom from the ages。"With 12 new rules， most of which read like re-worded versions of the first 12， Peterson is back with his life advice。 The overarching message is that you should work hard for things you want， the things （and people） you love but most of all， work hard on yourself。 To say I was underwhelmed by this sequel doesn't quite cut it。 The first part had a massive impact on me。 Perhaps it is partially because some of this material is already familiar to me， as I have since watched many of his lectures， but I found myself downright bored very often。 Peterson is repetitive， droning on and on for pages about a point he has made in mere sentences。 At times， I didn't understand his approach to discussing things or how some elements were even relevant。 For instance， in discussing the relevance of making one room in your house as beautiful as you can， he brags about how he feels he has seen more paintings in this short amount of time， even providing a math equation in the footnote to show just how many paintings he has looked at。 It felt very out of place and strangely boastful， something I cannot imagine him doing in the first book。 There were parts I liked。 I always enjoy his explorations of works by Jung and Nietsche and the romanticism poetry he selected was quite a nice change from his rhetoric writing。 This was not his best， I am sure his circumstances over the years have affected it。 I am sorry to say that this just was not for me。 。。。more
Riley Gramlich
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"A certain amount of creativity and rebellion must be tolerated - or welcomed， depending on your point of view - to maintain the process of regeneration。 Every rule was once a creative act， breaking other rules。" ~JBP "A certain amount of creativity and rebellion must be tolerated - or welcomed， depending on your point of view - to maintain the process of regeneration。 Every rule was once a creative act， breaking other rules。" ~JBP 。。。more
Andrea Omić
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I mean， come on。 This is mr。 Peterson。 That’s all I have to say。 The rest is self explanatory。
Bill
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I could have highlighted entire chapters。 Much to read， study and share and read again。
Ari
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Good！ Bit too long & not as accessible as something this helpful could be， but worth reading！
Leonard Janke
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A decent successor to Beyond Chaos。 Many of the same themes are carried forward and elaborated upon。 The book is a bit less dreary。 There is a bit less dwelling on the worst incidents in human history and a bit more humor: especially in the chapter on romance。 The emphasize on suffering is not completely gone as a major theme， however。I did not find a great deal that was brand new compared to Beyond Chaos。 Still just discussing existing themes was worth the time。 The new chapter on writing thing A decent successor to Beyond Chaos。 Many of the same themes are carried forward and elaborated upon。 The book is a bit less dreary。 There is a bit less dwelling on the worst incidents in human history and a bit more humor: especially in the chapter on romance。 The emphasize on suffering is not completely gone as a major theme， however。I did not find a great deal that was brand new compared to Beyond Chaos。 Still just discussing existing themes was worth the time。 The new chapter on writing things down is an elaboration of being precise in your speech from Beyond Chaos and， perhaps， a non-obvious extension。 Missing was the most scathing political commentary from Beyond Chaos。 There was not much in that book， but it was good and is missed。 This book seems to aim explicitly at moderation。I found the title a little odd given the book's content。 Most of the themes did not seem to be about escaping too much order。 They still mostly seemed to be strategies for dealing with too much chaos。 Peterson's recollections of the work with his clients are definitely the most engaging parts。 。。。more
Adam
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Always makes you think， probably worth a reread！ I emerged sadder and wiser by reading this book！ What my 👂 heard ⤵️I've Loved Sarah deeply for x yearsit appeared near totalwe must in ignorance prepare for all eventualitieshe's chronically alcoholicwe mostly think by talkingtoday's beginner is tomorrow's masterbigger beasts like smaller rats win 30 to 40% of the time so this way the smaller rats want to keep playing with more sophisticated bigger animals the ratios even higherI'm distinctly unim Always makes you think， probably worth a reread！ I emerged sadder and wiser by reading this book！ What my 👂 heard ⤵️I've Loved Sarah deeply for x yearsit appeared near totalwe must in ignorance prepare for all eventualitieshe's chronically alcoholicwe mostly think by talkingtoday's beginner is tomorrow's masterbigger beasts like smaller rats win 30 to 40% of the time so this way the smaller rats want to keep playing with more sophisticated bigger animals the ratios even higherI'm distinctly unimpressedfar more shadowy than you would like to realizeI have not benefited from education beyond the high school levelstaggering act of sophisticated thoughtwho could you be if you were everything you could conceivably bewe may never put our finger on what has gone wrongare you going to face us courtide or are you going to ignore what you know pretend that everything is all right even though you know emotionally as a consequence of your anxiety that it is not。 and pau the inventabtabl pyscholgocal and physical price。 contront whay you are afraid of。。。the terrible abstract monster。。。。yourselfwhat does all this quitage signify about you？I'm a partly golden superherosub aquatic monsteralien dragon wormswho dares wins if they don't perishi must confront my monstrousnesshard to conceptsulize if you knocked truly wanting to enter maybe the door would openrule for notice that opportunity lyrics were responsibility has been abdicatetiny serpentlearn more about the business or the competitors then you already knowit is possible to hit a Target you did not aim atdiscipline yourself or suffer the consequencesI will profitably consider thisCurtis stopped paying attention to how his kingdom was being runI'm willing to use manipulation deceit and compulsion to gain status and controlwhat's your greatest ambition？turning a blind eye to his evil brother's matinationsmach·i·na·tion/ˌmakəˈnāSHən，ˌmaSHəˈnāSHən/Learn to pronouncenounplural noun: machinationsa plot or scheme。Similar:schemesplottingthings Fall apart when love affairs collapsema·lev·o·lent/məˈlevələnt/Learn to pronounceadjectivehaving or showing a wish to do evil to others。"the glint of dark， malevolent eyes"Similar:maliciousspitefulhostileevil-mindedbalefulbitterevil-intentionedpoisonousvenomousevilmalignmalignantrancorousviciousvindictiverevengefulvengefulperniciouscruelfiercenastyunfriendlyunkindill-naturedmaleficmaleficentOpposite:benevolentFeeto look upon evil with eyes unshielded is dangerous beyond belief regardless of how necessary it is to lookwhat is the upper limit of that we don't knowyou know the risks if you choose to。 maximize now at the expense of laterthe future is coming for your child full well as it comes for you I am required by harsh necessityI've never met anyone who was satisfied when they knew they were not doing everything they should be doing we are temporarily aware creatures we know that are playing an iterated game which we cannot easily hide。。。。 pick up the extra weightgreat players are attractiveif the cost of betraying yourself in the deepest sense with guilt shame and anxiety， the benefit of not betraying yourself is meaning the meaning that's a sustains。 he's nihilistic and hates everything just on principlethese moves challenged us deeply a better job may also back in if you can tolerate the idea of the transitionI'm lagging in the development of my skillsI find it heart-wrenchingthat's a low resolution representationif you aim at nothing you become plagued by everythingcommitment requires its pound of fleshI'm not the complaint dept i cant give a refundthe worst decision of all is noneincreasingly sophisticated game playing abilityart is the bedrock of culture itselfI'm prone ro destructive resentmentexcessive sorrow laughsexcessive joy weeps i feel far less at home because of itmy heart is at your festivalI need another Vista to conquergenuine qualityto call the event chilling is to say almost nothingI emerged sadder but wiser after reading this bookyou are far from unintelligentyou are barely audibleshe became exceedingly vindictivehe's inventing lies for revengeand unsolved problems seldom sits there and stasis it grows new heads like a Hydra One lie one act of avoidance brings the necessity for more。 the courage necessary to confront the full horrors of life isnt easy muster but the alternative is worseit verges on acceptablecold and shrivelled heartdo you think not letting your husband know your wishes is it practical approach to a happy marriagein a relationship that remains intact truth must be king。。。 don't blame me for being wise enough to distrustyou're not supposed to speak the truth you're supposed to act it outno Bb that is a horrifying possibilityyou don't find the right person so much as you make the right personwhat is going to make you desperate enough to negotiate？for whatever reason she's trying to make his death a littlehow are you going to figure it out if you can't even get the conversation off the ground？the part that wants to avoid is the part that gets angry。 don't foolishly confuse nice with good make it work Ash or suffer miserablyor else youll really have to face what must be facedyou can keep the possibility of escape in the back of your mind but then you won't be able to achieve the demand of transformation which will require everything you got we live a very long time but it is all over in a flashare you celebrating closing the Barn door after the cattle have bolted？youthful delusionwe are too fragile to play around with what life might offer usyou might not recover from thisan affair is not helpful and to your children you owe primary allegiancehe's a psychopathic brute curtis winnieif you set up a household with someone you're going to have to do an awful lot of negotiations to keep both like and love aliveat what level of perfection does the bed need to be made to be mutually acceptable？your life is consisting mainly of what is repeated dailywhat do we have to do to keep the wolf from the door next week？what is going on as far as you're concerned with。。。。？is there anything bothering you that I can address？antiromantic & roboticmaintain your marital valve so that you are desperate enough to negotiate honestlydo not be naive do not expect the beauty of love to maintain itself without all out effort on your part do not allow yourself to become resentful evil unkind or arrogantI will not be outmatchedI arrived well behaved but uninvitedthere are things going on here behind the scenes that are both unspoken and unspeakable despite surface appearancesim too old & infirm I'm not overwhelmed by sorrowhe is very particularizedbe grateful in spite of your sufferingI got some things that I'm excited and grateful for 。。。more
Ward
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Peterson did not disappoint with the follow up to “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos”。 While I preferred the previous book in some respects， this was still a very good book。 This contrast may result from the fact that I have already covered much of his material （e。g。， lecture series “Maps of Meaning”）， which has lead me to embody and/or understand many of the things he sheds light on。 Accordingly， this decrease in new information may have lead to less “wow” moments， where everything sudden Peterson did not disappoint with the follow up to “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos”。 While I preferred the previous book in some respects， this was still a very good book。 This contrast may result from the fact that I have already covered much of his material （e。g。， lecture series “Maps of Meaning”）， which has lead me to embody and/or understand many of the things he sheds light on。 Accordingly， this decrease in new information may have lead to less “wow” moments， where everything suddenly made sense。Furthermore， while the “rules” themselves are less memorable， Peterson’s anecdotes and illustrations provide the reader with less dense reading， which can be really nice at moments。 。。。more
Jack
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Unbelievably good， would give it 10 stars if I could。 Can’t recommend it more。
Mike Warner
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Disclaimer: I came to this book before seeing any of Peterson's online presence or reading his first book， though aware of the lightning rod nature of his public persona。After finishing this book and watching part of a public debate he held， I am struck by such a disconnect between his public presence and his writing。 I found this writing thoroughly moderate， considerate of opposing viewpoints with grace and charity and while often coming down on the side of a moderately conservative argument， t Disclaimer: I came to this book before seeing any of Peterson's online presence or reading his first book， though aware of the lightning rod nature of his public persona。After finishing this book and watching part of a public debate he held， I am struck by such a disconnect between his public presence and his writing。 I found this writing thoroughly moderate， considerate of opposing viewpoints with grace and charity and while often coming down on the side of a moderately conservative argument， there is much room for nuance and thought。 That is not what I experience in his videos and following。 I think it quite difficult to ask someone who has encountered Peterson's public persona to suspend judgment and give this book a try。 But I am walking away recognizing much resonance with his moderation on most subjects。 It could also be that I entered the stream here and not at his first book （which I plan on listening to） and that the subject matter of the first lends towards his conservative persona and that of this book was more moderating。 Even still， the moderating exists， at least in the world of his writing。 Is it just not possible for moderation to exist in the public sphere？ 。。。more
Daniel Portik
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Another great one for JBP。 You can put the rules of this book inside a niche in your heart。My critique is that at points， in typical fashion of Peterson he branches out from one solitary idea with many lines of arguments。 Sometimes it is almost hard for him to hold the reins of so many themes。 After this book， I have come to the realization that for Peterson the best form of media is in fact audio-video where he can stress his thoughts much better。
Melati Octavia
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 This is book make u evaluate your life。
Drew Schultz
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Amazing。 Great insight into forging ahead in the hard， but necessary path
André Baudeau
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A great addition to the first - best to read the first book before this one though。Amazing read， loved every page of it。
Jeremy Kruizinga
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There is much to commend Dr。 Peterson on。 I was surprised how personal of a book it was。 As always， I appreciate his tireless pursuit of the truth。 As a Christian， I was interested to see how much he interacted with the Bible， his appreciation for it and understanding of the Christian tradition。 While I disagree with many of his applications， I respect him nonetheless。 Highly recommend for anyone trying to make sense of the Western world。 My favorite rule was: Plan and work diligently to maintai There is much to commend Dr。 Peterson on。 I was surprised how personal of a book it was。 As always， I appreciate his tireless pursuit of the truth。 As a Christian， I was interested to see how much he interacted with the Bible， his appreciation for it and understanding of the Christian tradition。 While I disagree with many of his applications， I respect him nonetheless。 Highly recommend for anyone trying to make sense of the Western world。 My favorite rule was: Plan and work diligently to maintain the romance in your relationship。 A practical chapter and discussion。 。。。more
Jeff Whittum
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4。5 or betterNot as good as the first book， which I read much more carefully than this one。 So perhaps I'm not being perfectly fair。 The first installment was an easy five stars and this one not far behind it。 4。5 or betterNot as good as the first book， which I read much more carefully than this one。 So perhaps I'm not being perfectly fair。 The first installment was an easy five stars and this one not far behind it。 。。。more
Emma Sea
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What a grind to get through :（
Victoria
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13% DNF
Angela
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Everyone should read this volume！ I listened to it （ and the first one） on audible and thought it was a good one for that。
Kate
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2。5 ⭐️
Brian
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Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life is the sequel to Peterson's must-read 12 Rules for life。 Though not quite as good as the former， the latter gets a solid 3。5 stars。 I listened to the audiobook because who doesn't like to hear Jordan ramble on。 I kept imagining his hands making the motion of the spidery thread as he veered off into nearly every deep subject imaginable。 One can only be impressed by his ability to chain thoughts in progress together in mostly coherent ways。 As a bottom-up think Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life is the sequel to Peterson's must-read 12 Rules for life。 Though not quite as good as the former， the latter gets a solid 3。5 stars。 I listened to the audiobook because who doesn't like to hear Jordan ramble on。 I kept imagining his hands making the motion of the spidery thread as he veered off into nearly every deep subject imaginable。 One can only be impressed by his ability to chain thoughts in progress together in mostly coherent ways。 As a bottom-up thinker， Peterson introduces new ways of looking at things。 That's his strength and appeal to me。 But being almost anti-ideological， his lack of top-down guidance leaves his ideas nebulous and unfinished。 But I learned a few things， and that made it worth reading/listening。 。。。more
Matthias Simoens
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Couldn't really bother with it but still finished it。。 A lot of words and pages to spread a simple message。 Also references the bible way too much for my liking。 Couldn't really bother with it but still finished it。。 A lot of words and pages to spread a simple message。 Also references the bible way too much for my liking。 。。。more
joel
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In a political climate where even mentioning truth without being sardonic will get you scoffed out of a humanities classroom， Peterson has crafted an entire arsenal for anyone willing to fight the good fight - whether that be creating order by taming chaos （12 Rules）， or transforming order when it has become too rigid and stifling （Beyond Order）I’m just going to put a small excerpt here from Rule 5: Fortify Your Position。‘When culture disintegrates — because it refuses to be aware of its own pat In a political climate where even mentioning truth without being sardonic will get you scoffed out of a humanities classroom， Peterson has crafted an entire arsenal for anyone willing to fight the good fight - whether that be creating order by taming chaos （12 Rules）， or transforming order when it has become too rigid and stifling （Beyond Order）I’m just going to put a small excerpt here from Rule 5: Fortify Your Position。‘When culture disintegrates — because it refuses to be aware of its own pathology; because the visionary hero is absent — it descends into the chaos that underlies everything。 Under such conditions， the individual can dive voluntarily as deeply as he or she dares into the depths and rediscover the eternal principles renewing vision and life。 The alternative is despair， corruption， and nihilism – thoughtless subjugation to the false word of totalitarian utopianism and life as a miserable， lying， and resentful slave。’ 。。。more
Joe
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Took a long time to read this。 Really is a very good book that combined with the first volume you could really sit down and use as a life guide to follow。Personally I’m going to take some of the rules more to heart than others。 Less focused on making one room in my home as beautiful as possible and more focused on imagining who I could be and aiming single-mindedly at that， working diligently to maintain romance in my relationship， not becoming resentful， deceitful or arrogant and being grateful Took a long time to read this。 Really is a very good book that combined with the first volume you could really sit down and use as a life guide to follow。Personally I’m going to take some of the rules more to heart than others。 Less focused on making one room in my home as beautiful as possible and more focused on imagining who I could be and aiming single-mindedly at that， working diligently to maintain romance in my relationship， not becoming resentful， deceitful or arrogant and being grateful in spite of suffering。 。。。more
John
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Like Jordan B。 Peterson's last book， there is very little obvious fault I can find within this one。 There are the occasional things， like when he writes about diamonds and where they get their value - he does not mention the obvious thing of scarcity， but mostly this is an exceptional book。 I don't take too much issue with the political points he makes either because I agree with a lot， although not all。 What I find the best thing about Peterson is that he is a fresh voice， a person that can exp Like Jordan B。 Peterson's last book， there is very little obvious fault I can find within this one。 There are the occasional things， like when he writes about diamonds and where they get their value - he does not mention the obvious thing of scarcity， but mostly this is an exceptional book。 I don't take too much issue with the political points he makes either because I agree with a lot， although not all。 What I find the best thing about Peterson is that he is a fresh voice， a person that can explain difficult things clearly and in a way that I've not read many other places。 It's not a topic as limited by logic as maths， rather， psychology is a messy topic that Peterson helps put an order to。 The different chapters are unequal in how much they engaged me， but all are very good。 Some choices of material do seem a bit forced into the constraints of the "rule" on the basis that he knows lots about the topic and has written about it elsewhere - so I read and wonder what it did have to do with the topic， and at the end of the chapter， although he always winds back up to the rule it is not always a smooth transition。 Other times he uses lots of pages telling stories from his time as a psychologist， and even if they are interesting they tend to add little for the duration of the story takes。 Maybe they are good to have in order to differentiate the pace of the reading and make the chapters more separated - but I think the rules themselves do come a bit in the background often and I can not recount after reading the book which stories go with what rule。 Maybe that is just an artifact of the amount of psychological information that is present in the book。I learned a lot and got a lot to chew on while reading - and it was indeed a pleasure。 I do think the premise with the rules is not the best for a book， as I like more exploration of one topic in one book - as it makes the book something I can relate to one issue rather than twelve。 Hopefully， Peterson will come back and share his insight in more books in the future， and then not within the context of rules。 。。。more
Miggy
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In typical Jordan Peterson fashion， there was a lot depth to this book。 Ive always liked the way he approaches subjects， although I do not always agree with him。 To me there was no real heart or direction to this book。 I felt like I was laying on his couch in his office being lectured， which of course some would love， but unfortunately I only felt connected to a couple chapters which made this book a little slow for me。
Nikolay Ivanov
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Not as good as the original 12 rules。 Perhaps rule X was the best one in here。
Florin Tiran
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Quite good in some areas but kind of too broad and generic with most rules。
Kushagra Singh
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Peterson is an honest man。 Fiercely honest and authentic in his opinions。 It is not necessary for one to agree with his ideas to appreciate that he comes from a place of earnest sincerity。 Beyond Order will again make you appreciate his honest and sincere ideas。 Beyond Order is a bit too psycho-analytical for me。 The chapters sometimes are stretched to the point of ennui。 I prefer the first book over this one any day。
Patrick Stepanek
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